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The 2022 IHMSA National Championship to be held in Indiana this year has drawn the attention of the Brazil shooters and the possibility they may attend. As such, I'm going to post the match info in this thread. There already is a long thread in the Announcements section with more complete info.

2022 IHMSA CHAMPIONSHIPS
RILEY CONSERVATION CLUB
RILEY, INDIANA

Dates: July 8-13
60 round match
Big Bore, Half Scale, Small Bore, 1/5 scale, Field Pistol, Practical Hunter, Air Gun
Pre-registration strongly encouraged but not required
Airgun (60 rounds) will be on Sunday July 10
Trophies to category champions
Special awards: Iron Man, 4-gun agg(s), FP agg, High Junior
Powder guns are $20 each up to 12 entries ($240)
Air guns are $7 each
Juniors shoot free with paid adult
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Sunday July 10- Air gun
Monday July 11- Board meeting
Tuesday July 12- Dinner and Shooters Roundtable
Wednesday July 13- Shootoffs approx. 1:30 pm
Half scale available on Big Bore range starting 2PM each day except Wednesday
Big Bore rams, 200 yards, will be hard set or swingers, hits must be confirmed.
No PH Short, range does not have the capacity
15 minute relays, 9am-4pm or as needed
Black targets on tan sand backstops. Range faces a little east of south.

To pre-register, contact:
Jim Kesser
Jimologist@aol.com
614-214-6165
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Camping permitted by advance approval only
Volunteer registration is $45, can be worked off @ 15/hour, and will be waived if there are enough paid entries.
Lunch available in the 1500 sq. ft clubhouse. Indoor restrooms.
Easy access to major highways, motels, restaurants in Terre Haute.

Wanted post an update on the Championships.

I have already registered 133 entries. We have 7 states represented and it is shaping up to a very exciting match.

If you are thinking about attending this match, send me your requested times and dates and I will get you slotted in.

Jim Kesser

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Was your gun protested last year?

I would opine that it would be impossible to determine from your description if your gun would pass inspection. You fail to mention what kind of sights, what the sight radius is. If its scoped, what is the length of the scope and the lowest power setting. You did not list the weight of the gun. The trigger could even be out side guidelines.

I would say no gun could be approved from what you described. Ive checked an awful lot of guns at a lot of matches. Until it is seen, measured and weighed, it is impossible to say a gun is legal.

I have weighed production, stock .22LR Freedom Arms pistols that weighed 4.01 lbs on the International certified scale. Those guns were not legal at 4.01 lbs and were not approved to shoot. The fix in those cases was the gun needed cleaned and then was reweighed.
My standing production gun weighed over 4.00 lbs at the Internationals at LASC. It had weighed under 4.00 at Oklahoma, Ft. Stockton, and Tusco. I was not pleased but a fore end change corrected the issue and i went on to shoot.

I saw a guy hacksawing a stock on an unlimited gun at Oakridge Tenn.

I would never say a gun is legal and within the rules until i had it in hands and could look at it.


Jim Kesser

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I just went back and read the practical hunter rules and you are right.

It states the gun must be as manufactured. No weight limit, sight radius or barrel length.

My apologies to you Forest.

I still dont think you will get a verbal certification prior to presenting your gun at check in.

I was on the protest committee in Oklahoma. Was your gun challenged? Most of the questioned guns passed, but a couple did not. The reason that they did not is because they were one of a kind custom or parts of the guns were one of a kind custom. The parts were handmade by the shooter, not a manufacturer. Or they were as manufactured but altered past the point of being a cosmetic change.


Jim Kesser

Forest--It sounds like you have answered your own question. Hope to see you here in July. Bring your factory gun and shoot PH and enjoy the event.

There won't be sight unseen approval from my end. You've read the rule book and appear to have followed the criteria that applies to PH guns. Come and shoot it.

Fundamentally, a sight unseen approval would negate and pre-empt any hands-on inspection, give a match director the power to create "Home Club Rules", and defeat the very purpose of having a common rulebook and the process for rule change proposals. It's a Pandora's box, and I'm not going down that road.

While your description doesn't appear to put you in this group, there were a number of guns last summer that had chopped grips and forend extensions and pretty much all the owners pointed to their gun and claimed it had a factory stock amid that carnage and that all those modifications were just cosmetic.

Again, hope to see you here in July!

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